[rfk-dev] I'll make a new vanilla NKI list

Peter A. H. Peterson pedro at tastytronic.net
Thu Nov 1 06:26:42 PDT 2012

Quoting Leonard Richardson:
> As the original author of robotfindskitten I'd like to offer my
> services in creating a new NKI list for vanilla. 

I think this is a great idea -- thank you for volunteering!

> I would like your opinion on approximately how many NKIs should be in
> the list. There are about 740 in the big vanilla list. There are about
> 200 that were added to the Inform version, but spot checks indicate
> most of those are also present in vanilla. Should we aim for more like
> 700, or more like 1000? Should we go big or prune it down?

I don't actually have an opinion about size. I think we should have
that discussion if things grow considerably larger, although even with
rfk gaining notoriety over the last 15 years that has not happened. So
I think at this point I think you should just take all the ones that
you think "make the cut" from the extant lists and go from there.

Also, FYI -- The Big List (messages.h-731) is not actually the
"vanilla list". To get the vanilla list, check out the new git repo
from Sourceforge. This list actually doesn't include *any* of the
Inform NKI. (This is because the Grand Unified NKI List that I made in
anticipation of the new Alexey version did not make it into the last
revision as made by Ryan Finnie.)

> IMO robot and kitten should never take definite articles.

Absolutely agreed. And they are not proper nouns. And there should
never be spaces in the name.

> 2. Regardless of how the NKIs are merged, I'd like to omit the "Clang"
> NKI from vanilla. The NKIs are deliberately ambiguous and presented in
> a context-free way. I don't want a kid thinking rfk is calling them
> the same name their bullies use.

I agree. This may seem overly cautious, but I think that is
appropriate in cases where the ambiguity could be seen as being


Peter A. H. Peterson
Graduate Student Researcher
Laboratory for Advanced Systems Research
University of California, Los Angeles

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