[rfk-dev] robotfindskitten - web version

David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu
Tue Mar 24 12:17:34 PDT 2009

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Leonard Richardson wrote:

> I think this is fine and it makes sense to do it as an independent project.

It seems that this would nicely go hand-on-hand with rfk capable of using 
external nki lists.

> 2009/3/24 Lajcik <lighteater at gmail.com>:
>> Hi,
>> Well, i was mostly tossing ideas around, the one thing im bent on the most
>> is making a online version that would give people a possibility of
>> submitting nki, since this is where imho lies the heart and biggest fun of
>> rfk. With time it could lead to for example making themes for rfk, like
>> "help robotfindkitten in middleearth" and whatnot. But again, im tossing
>> wild ideas here. On the other hand - theres already a nethack nki file on
>> Leonard's site.
>> What im generally aiming for is a rfk that you can load up when you have
>> those few spare minutes at work or anywhere, enjoy for a while and also help
>> it evovle in some way. So i guess i can see how this could become more of a
>> community site, tho i wasnt really thinking along those lines.
>> The idea was mainly born because the only web version 'running online' that
>> i found is located http://robotfindskitten.net/ and its running the flash
>> version found in your repository. So if there were other versions they have
>> since disappeared into the darkest depths of the internet.
>> As for the control/integration matter - i think it would be really nice if
>> it was integrated into the rfk site like you mentioned. On the other hand,
>> making it an independent project would allow me more flexibility and
>> tinkering when something comes to mind... So that would be a 'undecided' on
>> my part, tho for now ill go independent - i have to develop it somewhere :).
>> However im open for discussion on this.
>> Thanks for your reply,
>> Michal
>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Peter A. H. Peterson
>> <pedro at tastytronic.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Michal,
>>> I think the best thing for you to do would be to contact Leonard
>>> Richardson (leonardr at crummy.com) and subscribe to the rfk-dev list and
>>> explain your idea there. robotfindskitten is not *my* baby -- Leonard
>>> created it. I *am* responsible for the website and in some sense for
>>> generally wrangling the community... but we're a pretty loose
>>> organization.
>>> For the record, there have been some other web versions which used
>>> many of the elements of rfk that you're mentioning, so I don't really
>>> think it will be a permissions problem, providing that appropriate
>>> credit, etc., is given. I guess the difference is in scope; it sounds
>>> like what you're hoping to build is something like a play-online rfk
>>> community website (including nki submission, voting, etc.) as opposed
>>> to the current rfk site, which is mostly a development archive. Is
>>> this correct?
>>> If so, is this a project you want independent control over, or is this
>>> something that you'd be happy to have integrated into the existing
>>> robotfindskitten website? I can imagine that it would be good for the
>>> robotfindskitten community, etc. to have a single, central rfk scene.
>>> That said, I'm not even sure that the rfk crew (including myself)
>>> would want that as part of the official site -- I'm just thinking out
>>> loud.
>>> In any case, thank you for your interest in robotfindskitten... it's
>>> great, isn't it? Let me know what you're thinking as you proceed with
>>> this.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Peter
>>> Quoting Lajcik:
>>>>    Hi,
>>>>    I recently discovered rfk and was immediately charmed by it :) Theres
>>>>    something relaxing in searching for a kitten in a world full of
>>>> curious
>>>>    objects.
>>>>    It left me inspired to create a web version of rfk using latest
>>>> javascript
>>>>    magic, i even started some work already, but I would still like to
>>>> hear
>>>>    your opinion and permission. I understand that rfk is gpl, but id
>>>> still
>>>>    feel better if i got your 'ok' since its your child. Id like to keep
>>>> the
>>>>    web version close to the theme of original rfk and your website.
>>>> Which
>>>>    ultimately means id like to use the afterword, the logo, etc... which
>>>>    again ultimately means id like it too look very much like rfk site :)
>>>>    (more or less, the layout part is still mostly in my head)
>>>>    The main idea is to have rfk fully playable in a web browser, keeping
>>>> the
>>>>    original feel of rfk (black background, ascii items, navigation using
>>>>    arrow keys, ascii website etc) and enhancing the concept with some
>>>>    features. For example letting users submit new "Non Kitty Items" via
>>>> web
>>>>    interface (which would be later accepted/rejected by hand and maybe
>>>> by
>>>>    bash-style voting in unforseen future), and including counters like
>>>>    "robotfoundkitten x times today". maybe a mobile browser version if
>>>> people
>>>>    like it... etc. Its something that has a lot of space to expand upon
>>>> while
>>>>    still keeping it simple and zen.
>>>>    Let me know if youre ok with it.
>>>>    i can mail you when robot is ready to seek kittens, i mean when ive
>>>> got
>>>>    something to show, which hopefully will be before christmas :)
>>>>    Cheers,
>>>>    Michal
>>> --
>>> Peter A. H. Peterson, technician and musician.
>>>  ---=[ http://tastytronic.net/~pedro/ ]=---
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