[rfk-dev] robotfindskitten - web version

Leonard Richardson leonardr at segfault.org
Tue Mar 24 09:51:20 PDT 2009

I think this is fine and it makes sense to do it as an independent project.


2009/3/24 Lajcik <lighteater at gmail.com>:
> Hi,
> Well, i was mostly tossing ideas around, the one thing im bent on the most
> is making a online version that would give people a possibility of
> submitting nki, since this is where imho lies the heart and biggest fun of
> rfk. With time it could lead to for example making themes for rfk, like
> "help robotfindkitten in middleearth" and whatnot. But again, im tossing
> wild ideas here. On the other hand - theres already a nethack nki file on
> Leonard's site.
> What im generally aiming for is a rfk that you can load up when you have
> those few spare minutes at work or anywhere, enjoy for a while and also help
> it evovle in some way. So i guess i can see how this could become more of a
> community site, tho i wasnt really thinking along those lines.
> The idea was mainly born because the only web version 'running online' that
> i found is located http://robotfindskitten.net/ and its running the flash
> version found in your repository. So if there were other versions they have
> since disappeared into the darkest depths of the internet.
> As for the control/integration matter - i think it would be really nice if
> it was integrated into the rfk site like you mentioned. On the other hand,
> making it an independent project would allow me more flexibility and
> tinkering when something comes to mind... So that would be a 'undecided' on
> my part, tho for now ill go independent - i have to develop it somewhere :).
> However im open for discussion on this.
> Thanks for your reply,
> Michal
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Peter A. H. Peterson
> <pedro at tastytronic.net> wrote:
>> Hi Michal,
>> I think the best thing for you to do would be to contact Leonard
>> Richardson (leonardr at crummy.com) and subscribe to the rfk-dev list and
>> explain your idea there. robotfindskitten is not *my* baby -- Leonard
>> created it. I *am* responsible for the website and in some sense for
>> generally wrangling the community... but we're a pretty loose
>> organization.
>> For the record, there have been some other web versions which used
>> many of the elements of rfk that you're mentioning, so I don't really
>> think it will be a permissions problem, providing that appropriate
>> credit, etc., is given. I guess the difference is in scope; it sounds
>> like what you're hoping to build is something like a play-online rfk
>> community website (including nki submission, voting, etc.) as opposed
>> to the current rfk site, which is mostly a development archive. Is
>> this correct?
>> If so, is this a project you want independent control over, or is this
>> something that you'd be happy to have integrated into the existing
>> robotfindskitten website? I can imagine that it would be good for the
>> robotfindskitten community, etc. to have a single, central rfk scene.
>> That said, I'm not even sure that the rfk crew (including myself)
>> would want that as part of the official site -- I'm just thinking out
>> loud.
>> In any case, thank you for your interest in robotfindskitten... it's
>> great, isn't it? Let me know what you're thinking as you proceed with
>> this.
>> Thanks,
>> Peter
>> Quoting Lajcik:
>> >    Hi,
>> >
>> >    I recently discovered rfk and was immediately charmed by it :) Theres
>> >    something relaxing in searching for a kitten in a world full of
>> > curious
>> >    objects.
>> >
>> >    It left me inspired to create a web version of rfk using latest
>> > javascript
>> >    magic, i even started some work already, but I would still like to
>> > hear
>> >    your opinion and permission. I understand that rfk is gpl, but id
>> > still
>> >    feel better if i got your 'ok' since its your child. Id like to keep
>> > the
>> >    web version close to the theme of original rfk and your website.
>> > Which
>> >    ultimately means id like to use the afterword, the logo, etc... which
>> >    again ultimately means id like it too look very much like rfk site :)
>> >    (more or less, the layout part is still mostly in my head)
>> >
>> >    The main idea is to have rfk fully playable in a web browser, keeping
>> > the
>> >    original feel of rfk (black background, ascii items, navigation using
>> >    arrow keys, ascii website etc) and enhancing the concept with some
>> >    features. For example letting users submit new "Non Kitty Items" via
>> > web
>> >    interface (which would be later accepted/rejected by hand and maybe
>> > by
>> >    bash-style voting in unforseen future), and including counters like
>> >    "robotfoundkitten x times today". maybe a mobile browser version if
>> > people
>> >    like it... etc. Its something that has a lot of space to expand upon
>> > while
>> >    still keeping it simple and zen.
>> >
>> >    Let me know if youre ok with it.
>> >
>> >    i can mail you when robot is ready to seek kittens, i mean when ive
>> > got
>> >    something to show, which hopefully will be before christmas :)
>> >
>> >    Cheers,
>> >    Michal
>> --
>> Peter A. H. Peterson, technician and musician.
>>  ---=[ http://tastytronic.net/~pedro/ ]=---
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